2010 Feb. 9: UT: COMMENTS In our opinion: Air standards ever changing

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In our opinion: Air standards ever changing

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Population explosion | 7:01 a.m. Feb. 9, 2010
And it will only get worse as Utah expects a big population explosion, mostly self-produced, in the next 20 years.

What Utah needs to think about is how to keep our air healthly for the living GIVEN the unique geography and natural conditions we face and work within those parameters to develop both short-term (e.g., no idling days) and long-terms solutions (e.g., designing communities to be less car dependent).

Some counties have virtually no emission standards for cars. Incentives need to be made for people to buy hybrid cars that no only get great gas mileage, but also emit significantly fewer pollutants.

All this blaming Mother Nature for our air quality problems gets us nowhere.

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Lew Jeppson | 7:21 a.m. Feb. 9, 2010
The issue is not the reasons for the fowl air, whether it be man-caused or caused by nature. No, the issue is the risk to human health. This consideration is the reason the for shifting standards, i.e. changing and improving risk assessments. When I’m out riding my bike I don’t want to be endangering my health by breathing Wasatch Front air; I don’t care much whats making it dangerous – I just want it remedied. The state would be well advised to get with the EPA program and quit the foot-dragging. In the meantime we need to use mass transit as much as possible.
TO "Population explosion | 7:01  | 8:06 a.m. Feb. 9, 2010
Population explosion | 7:01 a.m.

What counties have "no emission standards for cars"???

I hope you can name them. Because I thought annual State Vehicle Emission Inspections was a STATE law, not a County Law.

PS.
I agree that just blaming it on nature gets us nowhere. But we aren’t just blaming nature. We’re working hard to drive less and change our life style and habbits to help.

IGNORING the Nature Component of the problem also gets us nowhere. It’s obviously there, and obviously a factor that NEEDS to be considered when comming up with effective soultions.

ALL factors need to be taken into account and thought about when discussing the best ways to solve our problems (including the factors NATURE and seasonal conditions contribute to the problem). But of course population and behavior are the things we can control most, so they are what we are working on. But just ignoring nature doesn’t solve the problem and would be unwise. Maybe we can find a way to work WITH Nature to solve the problem.

@ Liberal lies | 8:10 a.m. Feb. 9, 2010
Since when has air quality and citizen health had anything to do with liberal vs. conservative? I just want to breathe – and I’m pretty conservative!
point "A" to point "B" | 8:23 a.m. Feb. 9, 2010
SUV = 8 mpg
vs.
Toyota Prius = 51 mpg
Honda civic = 45 mpg
Ford Fusion = 41 mpg
VW Jetta = 42 mpg

Do you really need a gas guzzler?
All day – Every day – all season – all year??
[honestly?!]

Enough said.

Progressive | 9:27 a.m. Feb. 9, 2010
To Lew | 8:30 a.m. Feb. 9, 2010
Are you from around here?

50 years ago, our air WAS bad.
===========

It’s still bad, just not AS bad.

I believe in Eternal perfection, and Eternal PROGRESSION.

I want to look God in the eye and say, YES, I did EVERYTHING possible to make the world a better place.

I was given 5 talents, and I give thee 10 talents. – good and faithful servant.

Understand where I’m going with this??

~LDS Tree-Hugger

 
Anonymous | 9:51 a.m. Feb. 9, 2010
I’m so glad we moved from SLC. I recall when I would return to see family they were so glad smog devices weren’t required in Utah. They feared their cars would be under powered if smog was required. Smog technology won out. Cars improved with this technology.

If you think the air is bad, image what you would be breathing of conservative Utahns had won out.

Combustion | 9:52 a.m. Feb. 9, 2010
is the problem. Converting gas cars to CNG will increase the NOX, and this may increase PM2.5 during the winter.

It is going to be very tough to meet the new standard. The airshead will need to export its combustion to non-inverted areas, and import the electricity. It will be interesting watching what is needed to be below 35.

Oh Please | 9:57 a.m. Feb. 9, 2010
What "earnest efforts" has our legislature made that were not forced on them by the national government? Name one, please? Isn’t it true that our leg has fought every single clean air standard tooth and nail since day one?
Anonymous | 10:24 a.m. Feb. 9, 2010
"If you spend all your time and effort on your tree hugging and your other "progressive" ideals, what happens to other important talents? Like jobs, decent wages, decent housing, practicable transportation, reasonable taxes, and reasonable prices for goods and services?"

We have employed engineers to develop smog and air pollution mitigation systems. We have more cars today than in 1963 when smog devices were first implemented with PVC value.

We have wind generation that gives farmers another income stream. We have heating that while producing less pollution uses less energy saving you money. Adding insulation and retro fixing homes created jobs and new businesses.

Thanks to the regressive agenda, Germany leads the world in solar power and America must buy wind generators from China.

Stalwart Sentinel | 10:51 a.m. Feb. 9, 2010
@To "Progressive" | 10:07 a.m

Though I don’t want those statements in the loaded form you convey (ie the only faction that insists the govt do all those things are conservatives trying to perpetuate a fallacy of liberal stigmas), those are all essential to a civilization. Indeed, protection of the environment, cleaning the air, educating our children, teaching respect for other inhabitants of the earth, ensuring equal rights for all, and allowing women the constitutionally protected right to choose are all imperative to the American civilization.

Such a civilization will create jobs (green tech), increase wages (equal pay for equal work), provide decent housing (improving air quality and environmental surroundings), provide practicable transportation (public = less cars on the road so less traffic/damage to thoroughfares), lower taxes (if people like you didn’t resist, legislation would not be needed), and provide reasonably priced goods/services (buying local would be cheaper if practiced on a larger scale while simultaneously cutting pollution b/c less trucks shipping crosscountry, not to mention healthier goods – so lower medical expenditures).

To be sure, the only people who ‘rely’ on the government for said changes seem to be the resisting conservatives.

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